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14 Nov 2013

Interview: Kasi Lemmons & Raphael Saadiq talk ‘Black Nativity’ – casting, soundtrack and more

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November 14, 2013 Category: Entertainment Posted by:

Interviews by Masha Dowell


Kasi Lemmons’ version of Black Nativity is infused with amazing performances, and subtle dramatization.

Coupled with the musical soundtrack; the film is a cinematic delight. It’s a real holiday joy.

Last month, Fox Searchlight held a press day for the film at the Beverly Wilshire hotel, which I attended, and where, as part of a round-table chat with
other press, I was able pose a few questions to the film’s director and composer about their contributions to the film.

Kasi on how the script came about:

KASI LEMMONS: I had a meeting with producer and she asked me if I would be interested in doing the film version of “Black Nativity”? I grew up in
Boston which was a major venue for the play; so I’d seen the play many times. So I was like yes; I have an interest. So I signed on as writer and
director. That’s how I got involved. And then as I put it together; I realized how music was so important to the film. I was like who is going to do
this music? I woke up in bed one day and I was like Raphael Saadiq is going to compose this film. So then I kind of stalked him.

Raphael on his involvement in the film:

RAPHAEL SAADIQ: I’ve always watched films and paid attention to film scoring. I’m a fan of Kasi. I also knew that she liked quality work. For my first
film composing, I knew that it would be a challenge because all of the actors would have to sing; and I simply said yes to the challenge.

With the exception of Jennifer and Tyrese, I did not know initially if everyone else could sing. But I soon learned that Jacob Latimore could sing; and
then Forest came in and knocked me out. I learned that Forest actually had some classical training.

PHOTO: Kasi Lemmons at the 39th NAACP Image Awards held at the SHrine Auditorium, L.A.

Kasi talks about the casting process:

KASI LEMMONS When I met with Angela about the role, I was like this project is perfect for you! And then I was like you are going to have to sing. And
she was game to try it. She was very brave. I told her you just have to be a woman singing. You don’t have to be a singer; it’s all emotion. It’s all
acting […] They are all first choices. However, with the role of Reverend Cobbs there are a handful of movie stars that I adore; that are dear
friends of mine who could also sing. So I knew that it was going to be one of a few people. But Forest was my ideal. At first I didn’t know if I’d be
able to get him because he was doing a movie in South Africa, but eventually we ended up waiting for him.

Kasi on her challenges in Hollywood as a female director:

KL: The challenges in some way are my material. Look, I’ve been asked this question before; and I’ve got to say that I don’t think about it as the
truth. This is what I want to do. This is how I express. This is an evolution of my career. I don’t wake up every day and say I am a black woman what
do I do? You know it’s only when I’m in a meeting with a bunch of directors or I look at statistics that I’m like I got to hold it down from where I
am. I don’t dwell on it. The biggest challenges are always getting into the rooms that you need to get into and having people open to the types of
stories that I want to tell. And I feel that just being a female director and doing that is a big deal in this country. On my third movie I worked with
a French DP. I asked him has he ever worked with a woman director before? He said in France a third of directors are women, so you can’t avoid them. So
I realized that the US is behind.

On transferring an off- Broadway play to a film:

KASI LEMMONS: As a child I remember the pageantry and everything; but then I read the play and I was like oh… it was great, but I had to decide what
the film was really going to be about; and what stories I want to tell. So when I started telling that story in 2007, the financial crisis was going
on. And I wanted to talk about that in some way. But I also wanted the play to be about Langston Hughes or reflecting upon him. So I named the teen
after Langston (played by Jacob Lattimore). I wanted to connect Langton to the play beyond the play.

How TD Jakes got involved in the project:

KL: Early on the studio made the connection that TD Jakes would be interested in this type of material. The studio knew that he would be a powerful

PHOTO: Raphael Saadiq.

Raphael on where he drew inspiration for such powerful songs:

RAPHAEL SAADIQ: Kasi’s film, “Eve’s Bayou”, kind of frightened me a bit (laughter) I knew I had to be up to par with that film. For this film I brought
forth the tradition of gospel. A lot of the music had to be set before the start. I had to write the songs before I had to mix both. I wrote for the
cast; I had to create songs for them.

On whether they made the film that they wanted to make from the start:

RAPHAEL SAADIQ: We had a lot that did not make it. Forest does a lot of songs that will be on the DVD and on the soundtrack.

KASI LEMMONS: It’s a process. The cut that we put out to the audiences is a refined cut. For a paying audience. It’s different than what’s in a
director’s mind (my mind).

On what audiences should expect to take from the film experience as opposed to the play?

KASI LEMMONS: It’s a reflection of our time. The everyday miracle of forgiveness,. You know I did not want something that is like the hand of God is
reaching down to you. Because I believe that happens that happens every day in tiny ways. Opening yoru heart can open the universe to a lot of

Black Nativity
opens on November 27, 2013.

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